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Wong in a carrying trade carried on in many vessels, and that they owned several Chinese vessels, I observed, it you let the Eaglet be engaged in these expeditions against pirates, you will have a combination against you, and have the Eaglet snapped up; and he said, "no fear of that, such is the fame and terror caused by the Eaglet, that many vessels have applied to us, and we are thinking of granting the Eaglet's flag as a pass of protection."

PANG WA PING. Called and examined.

you must bear the consequences. I know, because of a pressed opinion. When I found out, from the examination reference I made to the documents of the case in the of Ma-chow Wong's books and papers, the extent and Supreme Court, and from hearsay and repute, that Ma- variety of the villanies of Ma chow Wong, I was, very chow Wong was tried there in 1847, on a charge of re- much against my will, and led by common sense, necessi- ceiving stolen goods. I have examined the depositions tated to alter my opinion about his being a dupe. which appear to me to be strong, the stolen goods having Mr Caldwell was in command of the Eaglet, on one oc- been actually found in Ma-chow Wong's house. I know casion I asked him how his marine affairs were getting that in February or March, of 1857, a petition was present-on, and he told me that he was partner with Ma-chow ed by Mr Caldwell to the Government, for the establish- ment of a monopoly of passage-boats. I knew at the time that Mr Caldwell strongly advocated the measure. I was consulted concerning the measure, and gave my opinion strongly against it. In my letter of the 20th July, I made eference to that proposed scheme. I made inquiry anterior to Ma-chow Wong's apprehension, and my informant told me that Ma-chow Wong was the secret mover in the affair, and was to be its conductor. I have stated that I always found that Ma-chow Wong was always interested either for or against pirates. I knew always from the position the case assumed in what scale was placed the I live in Jervois Street, and deal in unprepared Opium. influence of Ma-chow Wong. The same persons known On the 18th day of the 3d moon of 4th, year, (April 1854,) to be in business and trade with Ma-chow Wong present- I had a forcha, which was captured by pirates, A native of ed themselves time after time to bail persons charged with Tychow, an island near which the piracy had been commit- piracy and exhibiting an interest for the defence in ted, had bought rice from the pirates who taken her, and had cases which broke down through the non-attendance of he informed me of her capture. I gave information through the witnesses, Upon that account I should like that the a friend of mine-a Shroff in the Supreme Court to Mr oldest interpreter at present at the Police Court-Assow-- Caldwell. An English man-of-war, a screw steamer with should be examined. I recollect in one case, that a fish- two funnells (the Rattler), was sent in quest of her. The ing boat was attacked by pirates, and a man killed; the steamer came up with the pirates and re-captured the lor- body was brought to Hongkong, and an inquest held. I cha, and brought her back to this harbour when she was was Coroner. The witnesses in the case said they could restored to me. The day after I went to Mr Caldwell's identify some of the pirates and the boat. A verdict of Wil-office at the old Central Police Station, and paid upwards ful Murder against persons unknown was returned. Some of $200 on account of the Coals expended by the steamer: days afterwards the principal witness pointed out a boat this was in the outer office. I then went home, and in the then anchored in Hongkong Harbour; the Police boarded evening of same day I came back, and in an inner room I and took the boat; and some four or five men into custody offered Mr Caldwell $100 on account of his exertions, the Mr Stace appeared for the defence; the case began to assume the wonted complexion I have before alluded to; I was afraid he would have been ill-used had not the lor- more especially as I had a father on board the lorcha, and the witnesses having positively identified the boat and cha been got back so speedily. Mr Caldwell refused the certain of the prisoners at the Police Station, said, at the $100, made a gesture of indignation, and said, "there is no Police Court, that they could not identify them, and the such custom, I can't take it.” prisoners were nec ssarily discharged. That very same

I then said, "I do not wish boat was the boat seized in the trial in which Ma-chow Wong was convicted. This was proved by the evidence in the Police Court.

Caldwell again refused, and said Mrs Caldwell had enough to give it to you, but to buy ornaments for your wife." Mr

ornaments.

I then said "well, to be given to the chil- dren." Mr Caldwell did not answer, I put the $100 up- on the table, and Mrs Caldwell afterwards took the $200

The

My knowledge of Ma-chow Wong arose from my know. inside. That money has never been returned to me. ing that Mr Caldwell used un as an informer. Every per- money was paid on account of two lorchas, both of which son connected with the Police Department, and the Chi-had been rescued from pirates, one belonging to Acheong, nese community generally, knew of the position in which the P. & O). Comprador. Not the slightest promise had Ma-chow Wong stood to Mr Caldwell, Up to the date of been held out before that this money would be paid on the my letter of the 20th July, I believed, as I therein express- recovery of the lorchas, nor was money spoken of ed, that Mr Caldwell was the dupe of Ma-chow Wong- and I judged this partly from believing that Mr Caldwell was under family influence. I knew he was careless and indifferent upon many points, and was subject to that family influence, and this knowledge partly led to my ex.

this $100, Mrs Caldwell was in the adjoining room, the Cross-examined,-When I spoke to Mr Caldwell about

wife's room. mat bag. When Mrs Caldwell took the money from the I saw her there. The money was in a small table, Mr Caldwell was walking to and fro outside in a

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verandah. I do not know that Mr Caldwell saw her do I heard that in consequence of a discrepancy between the so; I spoke to Mrs Caldwell. I said, "I too much chin report of Mr May, and that of Mr Caldwell, they were to be

chin Mr Caldwell." She said, she very much thank me, I told Mrs Caldwell about my father, and why I wished to give this present to her children.

THIRTEENTH DAY,

Wednesday, 23d June, 1858, at 12 o'clock, Noon.

Present,-All the Members. JAMES MONGAN, Assistant Chinese Secretary,-Re- called.

sent to Mr Wade for re-examination. I sent them to Mr Wade's private house. They were returned him to the office in the beginning of March last, when Mr Wade went to the North. They were returned exactly as I sent them. I am confident they had not been opened, for I put them up very carefully, and the tape and sealing wax were ex- actly the same us when I sent them. I was ordered up to Whampoa about this time, and when I came back I did not know what to do with them; they were an incum- brance in the office. I went to His Excellency Sir John Bowring, and asked him what was to be done. He gave me no instructions at all, but referred me to Dr Bridges, the Acting Colonial Secretary; I went immediately in to Dr Bridges, who said, "they are mere rubbish, you may burn them," and 1 saw them burnt myself.

Cross-examined,-1 had the custody of the papers while

I remember on the 29th September, 1857, two baskets and three or four packages of books and papers being sent up from the Police Magistrate's Office to the Chinese Secre- tary's Office. Mr Caldwell was directed to make a transla-they were under examination. As I finished the exami tion of the books, and I was requested to afford Mr Cald-nation of each packet, I sealed it up again as well as I can remember; and 1 unsealed each packet, when its ex- well every assistance in my power in the translation requir- amination began. As far as I could see, the

papers hand- ed by me to Mr Caldwell were returned to me by him.

ed, favourable or unfavourable to Ma-chow Wong. When they reached the office they were tied up and sealed. They I considered the papers were in my custody. I could not were delivered by the messenger to Mr Morrison, who de-

say I counted every paper I gave to Mr Caldwell; but I am because I was very parti-

livered them to me. One of the baskets had been opened, not at all sure that I did not do so,

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apparently for the purpose of seeing if the two packages which it professed to contain were there. The two pack-cular about it. It is my impression that all the papers I

handed to Mr Caldwell were returned by him to me. ages were still scaled. About two days afterwards I pro-

Re-examined, I do not exactly recollect whether Mr ceeded with Mr Caldwell to make the investigation. I was assisted by my Chinese teacher, and Mr Caldwell had his Caldwell consulted me on every one of the suspicious do- I was present when some questions were put Chinese clerk. I and my teacher first sorted the papers, and cuments.

to Mr Dixson at the Executive Council; I was not present in doing this ran over the contents, and any that were of a suspicious nature we put on one side. I understood my ins- when Mr May was examined; he was just called in when I went out. I do not remember any memoranda of Mr tructions to be, to look for any entries bearing on the state- ments made in the China Mail of the 17th September, May being produced. I was not examined in regard to 1857. The papers put on one side were then examined them. I certainly did not say before the Council, that by Mr Caldwell, and the contents noted down. In doing I could not account for the entries in Mr May's memo- this Mr Caldwell consulted me, and also upon what he randa not having been discovered by me in the books and noted down. I think, but am not quite sure, that this papers. I may have said so on other occasions when I heard of the memoranda, but I cannot say that I did ever examination occupied about three half days. As far as

After hearing the evidence given on this point by I was concerned, I should call it a cursory examination; say so.

Mr Dixson before the Commission, I still adhere to my I should not call it a searching one, unless I went over every item myself, and compared it with the books. Of statement, that the memoranda by Mr May were not pro- this I am certain, that I saw nothing of a suspicious duced at the Council in my presence, and that I was not nature in the books which I did not put on one side, and called on to account for the discrepancy between them and Mr Caldwell's report. Ail I heard was, that Mr Dixson I believe that all those so put aside were afterwards ex-

said that Mr May's memoranda would substantiate the amined. I think it hardly possible, that anything of a

I may have made a re- suspicious nature escaped me, but I cannot pledge myself statements in the China Mail.

I have mark on it, but I think I did not; I am quite certain that to the exact accuracy of every item noted down. read through the report made on the examination of the Mr May was not examined while I was in the room, and Mr May's me- books by Mr Caldwell, and do not recollect seeing any that I saw him coming in as I went out. entries of a suspicious nature not therein enumerated. moranda were never at any time then or afterwards in my When the examination was concluded, I tied up and hands, nor ever referred to me for examination or collation. sealed all the books and papers myself; and on the 13th I do not know whether they were sent to Mr Wade. of October, up to which time they remained in my custody, do not know what became of them after the Council broke I sent them in the same state to Mr Wade.

up, and I have never heard of them since. The papers October, I had been summoned to appear before the Council.

were burnt, I believe between the 20th and 30th March.

On the 12th

I